Crowcrick - 1/9/2025 08:19
havin’funfarming - 1/8/2025 16:08
This is an honest question because I have no idea what he actually meant by military force. From what little I heard about it so far it sounds like Greenland is part of Denmark but Greenland is more or less self governed and seeks to eventually be independent from Denmark.
Does Trump intend to use military force to defend Greenland from Denmark? Basically that would almost certainly be a no shots fired type of situation where a show of power is all that is required to facilitate Greenlands independence.
REALITY -- trump has never called for Greenland's Independence, He wants the US to own it
Reality: I never said that Trump called for Greenlands independence. I stated that apparently Greenland is seeking independence. Greenland and Trump’s vision does not have to be the same and I never said it was. Perhaps meeting somewhere in the middle is possible.
Doing that will come at a price and I’m sure Trump will want something in return, be it Greenland becoming part of the U.S. instead of Denmark or maybe agreements for access to Greenlands vast natural resources. I read that Greenland is rich in resources including uranium.
REALITY -- Those Natural Resources are Greenland's and it should be up to them to decide what to do with and how to sell them to.
Reality: I never said Greenland shouldn’t be able to decide what they do with their natural resources. Perhaps they will choose to sell to the U.S.
Has Trump specifically said what he means by using military force? He was never the war monger during his previous term like so many claimed he would be and I don’t see him being one this time either. I definitely don’t support invading Greenland but I don’t think that is what he means. Personally I expect he means that he would use a show of military force to allow Greenland to have the guts to separate from Denmark.
REALITY-- trump has never initiated any public policy that reduced any US military conflict in fact he increased military engagement in the following countries in his first term --Yemen, Syria, Kuwait, Afghanistan, and Somalia. and increased military actions against Al-Qaida and the Islamic State Group and lastly at a Rally in front of MAGAets proclaimed "I love war- in a certain kind of way".
Reality: Trump is the first president to not start a war in a long time. I am suggesting that he will likely follow the same pattern. You seem to be assuming he will break that pattern. Unless you can provide specific proof of his exact intent to invade another country we are both guessing but my thoughts are in keeping with history, yours is breaking it.
Greenland and Denmark have been working on its Independence since 1953, in 1979 they achieved an agreement with Denmark for home rule, in 2009 they started the Self Government policy which has led to Greenland taking over control of Health, Education, Taxation, Infrastructure, Business affairs, Domestic affairs, Social affairs and Housing. Next inline for Greenland is to take control of its Natural Resources , and an increased administration of its Justice system. One of the major hold backs to moving forward on Greenland independence is the Block Grant money it receives from Denmark which makes up about 1/3 of their GDP, seems many in Greenland fear not getting that and how it might effect their well being in the short run. Lastly the US has military post on Greenland and Cart Blanch power to control military action on the Island and have had that since 1945ish, if they truly wanted the US involved they simply only needed to ask.
Reality: There might be more going on than we are told. Perhaps they are now willing to ask or accept help now that Trump will be in office.
What are your thoughts on how he intends to use military force?
REALITY -- I will make no guess how a person with Dementia intends to use Military force, I will tell you how i was told to use military force --- Do not put anybody in the crosshair's that you do not plain to kill, Do not call in Military Force without full understanding of how that action will kill or destroy NON-MILITARY Assets.
Realty: You are assuming that Trump will do what you would do. I suspect that Trump thinks differently than you. And I will add that perhaps Trump’s methods will succeed where yours would fail.
I will complement you on putting together a relatively competent Spin on the subject. Might want to send your original post to Fox and friend they might think about hiring you in to their spin team.
Reality: I clearly said I don’t know what exactly Trump meant and that what I wrote are my thoughts on the subject. There is no spin involved other than you spinning the story that there is some spin. You clearly have your own thoughts on the subject. Your don’t seem to know any more than I do either. To quote a poster of the similar mentality as you we are both are operating in a “low intelligence environment”.
have a good day